The Fired Atheist

I recently had some contact with a Boy Scout camp counselor facing termination due to his atheism. I took a keen interest in the case and wanted to share my take on the issue.

I am an Eagle Scout and I work for the AHA. Because of my non-theistic outlook (I am not an atheist, simply an agnostic), according to policy the BSA should never have awarded, and may at any time revoke, my Eagle, an accomplishment I value far beyond my college degree. And yet, despite all that, I received my Eagle, served as my troop’s leader for the longest period in the troop’s history, was a counselor at National Junior Leadership Training, hold many awards including an Order of the Arrow membership, and remain in good standing with the BSA.

To earn and maintain my Eagle I did not perjure myself. After all, the first point of the Scout Law is “a scout is trustworthy”. My troop–and many others, I suspect–had an unspoken “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy (forgive the phrase). I have no doubt everyone knew I was an agnostic, but I never called attention to it and they never pushed on it. I was at times obligated to attend semi-religious events, but nothing more extreme than a prayer before meals.

“Don’t ask, don’t tell” is not a perfect solution, but it worked for me and worked for my troop. In my case, and I suspect in most others, the issue of faith only really becomes an issue in two circumstances. The first is if you make it an issue, the second is at your Eagle Board of Review.

To advance most ranks in Boy Scouts you sit before a group of adults, usually the parents of your friends and peers, and these folks audit your requirements and conduct an interview. They can use the chance to push whatever issue they so please. It’s usually not a big deal; requirements have been checked in advance, the Scoutmaster has given his okay, and unless something major happens you’re getting through. The Eagle Board is different. They audit everything, you must present signed proof of all requirements throughout your scouting career, the interview is much more involved, and there is a representative from the council present.

The Eagle Board of Review makes a point of bringing up religion. I believe I was asked, “will you avow a belief in one God?” I never answered the question. Instead, I unfolded a statement prepared in advance on just this issue. In classic humanist fashion I stated there is something beautiful in people that allows them to overcome what the law of self preservation dictates and allows people from around the world to communicate in a shared human language. Whatever this happens to be is worthy of our awe, humility, and reverence.

One woman on my board of five, a Christian fundamentalist from a megachurch, went on the attack. I didn’t have to say anything; I was immediately defended by the other four, including the man from council whom I had met once. After practically no time deliberating, I received my award.

I learned a lot in my time as a Boy Scout, including about the program itself. The religious side is there, I don’t mean to downplay it. But it is so insignificant and so liberally applied as to not be that big of a deal. There are bigger fish to fry. Despite whatever the policy may say, my experience, and that of many others, is that there is a tacit agreement you can openly believe basically anything you want. The one thing that BSA has said is off limits is actively promoting an atheist worldview. You could probably be an atheist in Scouts and get away with it without lying or hiding it, you simply cannot publicize it.

The camp counselor didn’t proselytize, nor did he share his atheism with the students he was counseling. Instead, he did something even more oafish, he flaunted it. After being a youth participant in BSA, the counselor continued his involvement through summer camp counseling. As was the case in my experience, most people were aware of his beliefs and opinions. This counselor’s beliefs were not an issue until he sent an email and letter to the camp directors, the council executive, and others stating his atheism and seeking assurances that he would not be disciplined for his beliefs.

The logic of the counselor’s move is really quite odd. BSA had given tacit approval of him, so somehow he thought he could get Boy Scouts to publicly allow an atheist. It would be nice if Boy Scouts would, but it was not about to happen for the counselor and he knew it. The counselor thought he could get away with it, and was, in effect, rubbing people’s faces in what he had done.

After making the misstep of publicly “outing” himself, the counselor sought help and began an appeals process. As Martin Luther King observed, when one breaks an unjust law it is to be done “openly, lovingly, and with a willingness to accept the consequences.” It seems our counselor was hoping for no consequences.There is a word to describe those who break the rules publicly and think they are beyond consequences: arrogant.

Boy Scouts requires the recitation of the Oath and Law. The Oath contains the line “do my duty to God and my Country.” Through his atheism, the counselor was probably in violation of this but could very well have made a case that he need not believe to do his duty. The law, on the other hand, contains 12 points, including “a scout is reverent.” If you look up reverent in the dictionary it has no relation whatsoever to God, it is in fact not necessarily a religious term. Reverence is about humility and deference.

The counselor was removed from his position because he violated the Scout Law, specifically the part about reverence. The counselor violated it not through his atheism, but through his arrogance. In removing the counselor, BSA has a shot at teaching him some humility. If they do, they will prove the continued value of including “reverent” in the law.

  • William Bogie

    The Boy Scouts of America do not in any way, shape or form give approval to Atheism or Agnosticism. They expressly forbid both. Here is what the Adult Application says:

    Excerpt From Declaration of Religious Principle
    The Boy Scouts of America maintains that no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without
    recognizing an obligation to God and, therefore, recognizes the religious element in the training of the
    member, but it is absolutely nonsectarian in its attitude toward that religious training. Its policy is that
    the home and organization or group with which the member is connected shall give definite attention
    to religious life. Only persons willing to subscribe to these precepts from the Declaration of Religious
    Principle and to the Bylaws of the Boy Scouts of America shall be entitled to certificates of leadership.

    Leadership Requirements
    The applicant must possess the moral, educational, and emotional qualities that the Boy Scouts of
    America deems necessary to afford positive leadership to youth. The applicant must also be the correct
    age, and subscribe to the precepts of the Declaration of Religious Principle, and abide by the Scout Oath
    or Promise, and the Scout Law.
    http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/28-501F.pdf

    So your Atheist counselor would have, by your own standard, broken the first part of the Scout Law when he signed on to be an adult leader. He could not fulfill his obligation by

  • http://yashwata.info Roy Sablosky

    To earn and maintain my Eagle I did not perjure myself.

    Congratulations! You won’t go to jail! You’re still a hypocrite, though. You look down on someone who was forced out for his atheism, while you stayed in by never rocking the boat. As an example of humanistic ethics, this is not impressive. The Boy Scout moral framework is incompatible with humanism. You can’t have it both ways. Choose one.

  • http://www.sinasohn.net/notebooks/ Uncle Roger

    Silly me, I thought it was illegal for someone to be fired because of their religious beliefs (or lack thereof). Even if it isn’t, it should be.

    It appears that it IS generally illegal to discriminate based on religion — “Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits employers with at least 15 employees, as well as employment agencies and unions, from discriminating in employment based on race, color, religion, sex, and national origin.” (http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/docs/qanda_religion.html) — but there is an exemption for “Religious Organizations”. I’m not sure, though, that the BSA would qualify (and if they do, I’m not sure they should be getting all the freebies they get from the government.) In any case, the exemption “only allows religious organizations to prefer to employ individuals who share their religion.”

    It seems to me that this camp counselor might just have a case for wrongful termination. (but IANAL)

  • William Bogie

    Roger-

    The person in question is a volunteer and therefore not covered by the law. There may be a small amount of money to him for being at camp but he is a volunteer and not an employee.

    here is what the exemption says:

    Religious Organization Exception: Under Title VII, religious organizations are permitted to give employment preference to members of their own religion. The exception applies only to those institutions whose

  • William Bogie

    “The Boy Scout moral framework is incompatible with humanism.”

    For the most part their ethics are compatable with Humanism.

    The Scout Oath:

    On my honor, I will do my best
    To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
    To help other people at all times;
    To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

    The Scout Law:

    A Scout is:

    Trustworthy,
    Loyal,
    Helpful,
    Friendly,
    Courteous,
    Kind,
    Obedient,
    Cheerful,
    Thrifty,
    Brave,
    Clean,
    and Reverent.

    The Scout Motto:

    Be Prepared!

    The Scout Slogan:

    Do a good turn daily.

    The Scout Outdoor Code:

    As an American, I will do my best to -

    Be clean in my outdoor manners
    Be careful with fire
    Be considerate in the outdoors, and
    Be conservation minded.

    With the scout oath the scout promises devotion to his country, to help other people, to keep himself moral and physically fit. All of these ethics fit in fine with Humanism. It’s the god talk that is incompatible, but only if the Humanist is an atheist. Humanists can be theists.

    The twelve points of the scout law are also equally applicable to humanist ethics. I mean do you suggest that Humanists are: liars, disloyal, not helpful, unfriendly, discourteous, unkind, disobedient, not cheerful, irresponsible with money, cowardly, and dirty? Again, reverance is an issue but only if one applies it to god. I could be reverent in honor of my dead father, a solemn occasion or in awe of teh splendor of Nature.

    Do you suggest that Humanists are ill-prepared or indifferent to the plight of others? Also many Humanists are outstanding environmentalists and I am sure would embrace the Outdoor Code.

    Where does Humanism and the BSA disagree? Discriminating against homosexuals and Atheists. That’s it. It is a big issue, especially to me as an Atheist and an Eagle Scout. I can tell you from personal experience: the lessons I leaned in the BSA made me a better Humanist. All I have to do is ignore the god talk and the predjudice.

  • http://yashwata.info Roy Sablosky

    With the scout oath the scout promises devotion to his country, to help other people, to keep himself moral and physically fit. All of these ethics fit in fine with Humanism. It

  • William Bogie

    The Scout Oath orders its duties this way:

    1. god
    2. Country
    3. Self
    4. Others

    There is no “duty to scouting” contained in the Oath. The Scout Law is solely about what the scout aspires to be. Certainly, no scout (or person for that matter) is able to live up to the Scout Law at all times. It is meant to be a guidepost. With the exception of the Duty to god in the Scout Oath and the twelfth point of the Scout Law, reverence, all of the points of the Scout Oath and Scout Law are compatible with Humanism.

    You mentioned five parts of the Scout Law that you claim are not Humanism. Well they are entirely compatible with Humanism, except for reverent.

    Obedience-The Humanist Manifesto II says this:

  • William Bogie

    The Scout Oath orders its duties this way:

    1. god
    2. Country
    3. Self
    4. Others

    There is no “duty to scouting” contained in the Oath. The Scout Law is solely about what the scout aspires to be. Certainly, no scout (or person for that matter) is able to live up to the Scout Law at all times. It is meant to be a guidepost. With the exception of the Duty to god in the Scout Oath and the twelfth point of the Scout Law, reverence, all of the points of the Scout Oath and Scout Law are compatible with Humanism.

    You mentioned five parts of the Scout Law that you claim are not Humanism. Well they are entirely compatible with Humanism, except for reverent.

    Obedience-In the Humanist Manifesto II says this: